Episode 8

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Published on:

9th Nov 2020

Challenging tax laws with Michelle Bush

In this episode of the SALTovation podcast, we speak with Michelle Bush, from Silverstein & Pomerantz, and our very own Judy Vorndran.

 


Michelle talks about her career handling tax matters on behalf of the city and then her later switch on behalf of the taxpayers . Listen to her multiple perspectives of challenging tax law in the court system.


 


Questions asked and answered in this Episode:


 


  • Why did she switch sides from representing the city to representing taxpayers?


  • What are Michelle thoughts on overreaching enforcement?


  • Was there a lack of trust from the cities for the state to collect their dues?


  • Why doesn’t Denver have clearer boundary lines?


  • What are Michelle’s opinions on the Sales & Use Tax System (SUTS) system?


  • What case had the biggest impact on Michelle on the way she thinks about tax and the application of the law?


  • How do you put together a compelling story for litigation?


  • What does Michelle foresee in future litigations?

 


What You Will Discover:


 


  • [01:29] The progression of Michelle’s career


  • [05:03] Why she shifted from representing the city to taxpayers


  • [06:34] How she adjusted to Colorado's complicated state tax system


  • [08:59] The balancing act on enforcing the tax law


  • [14:40] If Michelle felt any distrust between the City of Denver and the state of Colorado


  • [19:35] Issues with Colorado’s boundary lines


  • [21:15] Michelle’s opinions of the SUTS system


  • [27:38] What Michelle tries to remember in every piece of litigation


  • [31:40] How to put together a compelling story


  • [35:56] How the COVID-19 pandemic could play in future litigations


  • [37:37] Other litigations Michelle foresees in the future

 


Quotables:


 


  • “Wherever I worked, it was the right thing at the time.” - Michelle Bush [05:30]

 


  • “Just because no one is challenging it doesn’t mean it’s the right application. Doesn’t mean it’s the wrong application.” - Michelle Bush [10:21]

 


  • “Putting myself in the shoes of our clients, any time you can remove a barrier to compliance, I think that’s a good thing.” - Michelle Bush [22:10]

 


  • “But use tax is almost like when you say use tax, people think that… they look at you and say `I know the words you are using are in the English language, but I don’t know what that means.’” - Michelle Bush [26:28

 


  • “There’s always a story to be told.” - Michelle Bush [28:57]

 


Relevant Links:


 


Website: https://www.sptaxlaw.com/our-people/michelle-bush/


LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-bush-ba10b01a/


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